GB3 Gribouillis3 novità e richiesta aiuto

[divina]

Interessante messaggio di Guillaume Roguez alias @Yomgui che chiede collaborazione, suggerimenti per lo sviluppo del suo nuovo progetto "GB3" Gribouillis3

dettagli qui
http://www.morphzone.org/modules/newbb_ ... 51&forum=9

contatti
http://yellowblue.free.fr/yiki/doku.php

//You know, Gribouillis2 (aka GB2) on the road.
It works nicely globally, so it's entering in its "BugFix" stage now.

I don't want to introduce more features, mainly because current code design can't support it without big refactoring.

So, for me it's time to branch the code and start to think about GB3.

For that I need you help in various domains, as I've just started it's a good opportunity for you to propose ideas and concepts.

For sure I'll kept most of great aspects from GB2: multi-documents, layers, dynamic canvas size, ...

I'm going to introduce new one (this one need a big code refactoring in the "view"): independent ViewPort (VP).
A VP is linked to a document or to a surface, it handles the rendering of them into a classical pixels buffer, suitable to be blit by the system on the screen.
In this way I can propose multiple view of the same document (navigator, CMS, mirrored views, ...).
And VP for surfaces can be used to represent layers independently in the layer list.

Now you see also that *Gribouillis* is not longer a suitable name!
GB3 can be a nice **killer** application on your system, so having a good name is mandatory now.

I'm listening to you for this new name... and your features and concepts.

Guillaume

[TheKaneB]

grande! :-)

che brutta bestia il refactoring, quando i programmi diventano grossi iniziano a cadere i capelli, e si ricomincia da capo (parlo per esperienza personale)

[AmigaCori]

grande! :-)

che brutta bestia il refactoring, quando i programmi diventano grossi iniziano a cadere i capelli, e si ricomincia da capo (parlo per esperienza personale)

Ora mi spiego il tuo avatar

[Yomgui]

grande! :-)

che brutta bestia il refactoring, quando i programmi diventano grossi iniziano a cadere i capelli, e si ricomincia da capo (parlo per esperienza personale)

Hello,

@TheKaneB: Let me explain a bit more: in fact I DON'T re-writte everything. Just some part of the code that really need a re-write/re-design.
And don't forget one thing: it's python... it's FAAAAAAST to code with! ;-)

For the proof: I've finished the refactoring of the view today! And even re-implemented the cursor display, check this grab with this famous split-view feature, 2 ViewPorts in action:

http://www.yomgui.fr/images/gb3_splitview.png

[TheKaneB]

Nice work Yomgui! I'm used to C++ and *BIG* projects , where refactoring (usually) means tens of whip strokes , liters of *strong* coffe (the Italian one, you know... ) and intense, inner, negative, forces which usually make programmers run around the office, crying and/or swearing

That's one of the reasons why I quit professional Game Programming (another one has to do with the low resources of the Italian Game's Industry) and started my own business

[cdimauro]

Hello,

@TheKaneB: Let me explain a bit more: in fact I DON'T re-writte everything. Just some part of the code that really need a re-write/re-design.

I took a look at your code, and I found it very well written and organized, with a lot of design patterns used.

May be you need just some unit-testing, but your work is great anyway.

And don't forget one thing: it's python... it's FAAAAAAST to code with! ;-)

I'm a Python-addicted programmer, so I can understand it very well.

For the proof: I've finished the refactoring of the view today! And even re-implemented the cursor display, check this grab with this famous split-view feature, 2 ViewPorts in action:

http://www.yomgui.fr/images/gb3_splitview.png

Yup. A good proof of Python beauty is your program itself: it offers so much features, but looking at its code it's... very slim.

The only thing that it needs is a "world wide" name.

[Yomgui]

@TheKanaBe:

in fact re-writting could be used only in two case:
- you're the only programmer on the project
- the previous project doesn't fill expectations anymore.

But in some way, doing it in a multi-programmer environment is just like starting a new project ;-)

@cdimauro:

Thanks for your comments! GB3 will be even better...
I even trying to put comments in my code now.

About unit-testing: a bit difficult for an input based tools that's why you're my "unit-tester"

[cdimauro]

Generally speaking, yes, it can be difficult, but using mocks can make the life much easier.

P.S. I really don't like comments. I think that the code must be self-documenting, leaving comments only for non-functional things.

[divina]

prima immagine di GB3 Gribouillis3



A little teaser to up the post and motivate you

[divina]

ricordo che Guillaume Roguez richiede consigli, suggerimenti per il suo nuovo GB3, per contatti, via web site, forums ed e-mail

partecipate numerosi, è un software molto promettente

[divina]

piccolo video con nuove funzionalità di GB3 Gribouillis3

http://www.yomgui.fr/projects/gb3_teaser.mpeg

Some progress on new event handlers classes and tools, very fun to design tools now (like the selection...)

[cip060]

Bene non vedo l'ora di metterci le mani(la tavoletta)

[amig4be]

ottimo, serviva proprio un software del genere

[divina]

primo video anteprima dell' applicativo Gribouillis 3 beta in azione

http://www.yomgui.fr/vid/gb3_bubbles.avi